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Post by trkyman on Jul 21, 2007 22:44:32 GMT -5
in the majority of the photos of live deer,the ears are not held even,one is often higher or lower,more upwards,stuck out,ect...so maybe for the most realistic mount we should make the ears uneven? lol. also,in the majority of the critques given,by me too,we say "the eyes look too round,squint em more",but look at some ref photos,and 99% of the time,you will NEVER see a deer with its eyes squinted to the extreme that many pros have their mounts.so it seems like we have the choice...either make the deer look realistic,and get bashed,or make them look like everyone says to,like the "perfect image" in most taxidermists minds.
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Post by trkyman on Jul 22, 2007 17:15:16 GMT -5
I've been noticing that too. Every deer is different though. I guess if you wanted the wide open eye look than you could find a photo like this and take it to the competition with you and give it to the judge, to show that the wide look was what you were going for because it is in your reference.
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Post by trkyman on Jul 22, 2007 17:44:58 GMT -5
yep,i guess that'd be the only way to get by at a competition.
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Post by riverrat on Jul 25, 2007 8:37:07 GMT -5
I relay have had a hard time with deer and competing with them, When we are working on a deer for competition we are trying to get something above and beyond what god has put on this earth. The ears have to be perfect, the eyes just so, don't put a little twitch in the lip, no dirt in the ears or on the tong, etc, etc, etc. If you watch the new forms as they come out the are following what judges are looking for at competitions. This again is not what god has created but what our judges are asking for. This is not what your customer are shooting, why are we mounting deer like this. I mount my deer for the customer not the judges, they don't pay the bills.
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Derek
Forkhorn
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Post by Derek on Jul 25, 2007 23:50:17 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly, glen conley has sent me many many pictures of unsymetrical deer. the perfect deer isn't out there anymore than the perfect human is. I think the comps are fun and you will learn a lot from them but I also think that customers seeing comp mounts and expecting the same thing, are being disillusioned. the last time I competed ( 3 years ago ) a pronghorn shoulder mount scored a blue ribbon, now I'm not knocking anybodies work but this critter had 3 visible stitches that pulled from the bridge of the nose, I mean the thread was hanging out. I asked a friend who is now a judge but at that time was on the board, how that could score a blue, and he said that it didn't lose enough points for the bad stitching since the hair patterns and ears were correct. Now I gotta tell you, my customers would rather have an ear a quarter inch out of symmetry than to have 3 stitches hanging out its nose, so there is a certain perspective to competing.
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